PlentyOfFish Profile Review Forum

by David Evans on August 8, 2008   in Profiles

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As you may or may not know, several years ago I started a company called ProfileDoctor. We built a service that enabled live editors to review dating profiles and make suggestions in improvements. While I thoroughly enjoyed building up the company I ended up getting side-tracked by consulting projects in the dating industry and shelved ProfileDoctor.

Fast forward a few years and I’m amazed at how much better profiles are on dating sites these days. There are still millions of badly written profiles, but overall the quality is much better.

Hint to dating sites. A profile evaluation is a great way to market to stale members and get them back on the site. How many year-old profiles are lying dormant in your database? Major dating sites have millions, wouldn’t it be interesting to market to them with someone better than a “we miss you” remarketing email?

A few weeks ago I wrote about posting your profile photos on HotOrNot to find out which ones people like best. Today I came across the PlentyOfFish Profile Review Forum. What a great idea! For all the good-natured grief I give Markus at PlentyOfFish, it’s features like that that impress me the most.

The concept of crowdsourcing profile reviews is a fantastic value for members. A paid profile writing service might get to know you better but throwing up a profile in the PoF forum and receiving feedback from 50+ people in 24 hours seems to make more sense. There will always be a small percentage of serious daters who will pay $30 – $200 to have someone write their profile.

I would love to build text processing system that parses profiles for terms like “little black dress” or “long walks on the beach” and emails offending members to avoid cliches. One that system is built, you can add on all sorts of interesting tools and services. Don’t be so greedy, make it a free service and wrap it in relevant ads. After all, the value of a dating site, at least to members, is the quality of it’s members and their profiles.

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    black single » Comment on PlentyOfFish Profile Review Forum by beautiysuppliffks
    August 20, 2008 at 1:44 pm

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    1 Evan Marc Katz August 8, 2008 at 10:15 pm
    JDate’s forums have had similar amateur profile reviewers for years. They’re better in concept than they are in practice. Because most people can identify what’s wrong with a profile, but not know how to fix it.

    So forum members might give all sorts of helpful hints about avoiding cliches and negativity, but even after taking it all in, the writer still has no idea what to say in it’s place.

    It’s why sites like E-Cyrano will always have value. By writing profiles with heavy client input, we do what no amount of advice can possibly do – we provide a tangible product better than 99% of the profiles out there.

    Kudos to Markus for identifying the need and for utilizing his community for a source of good.

    2 markus August 9, 2008 at 12:13 pm
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    3 dustin August 11, 2008 at 3:32 pm
    DH has had this for years as well. Must be a slow news week.
    4 David Evans August 12, 2008 at 12:30 am
    Dustin, not slow at all, there is a ton of interesting stuff going on right now, great for a traditionally slow August news period. Do you read the blog or just leave snarky comments?
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    7 Dan August 29, 2008 at 4:50 pm
    What is really important is photo in your profile. Good photo is lots of interested people. http://forum.fiance.com is a great place to share your opinion. Guys on it gave me lots of good ideas.
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    9 star October 29, 2008 at 7:14 pm
    This site should be named PLENTY OF ROTTEN FISH.com, because that is what it is. POF is the absolute bottom of the barrel (save maybe alt.com) when it comes to dating sites. You will find the absolute worst class of women on here of anywhere… who are all single and losers for good reason. Fat, tatooed divorcees in flip flops with bad teeth, or with anger management or other problems.
    10 Gaurav Barot December 15, 2008 at 12:12 pm
    Sorry, David. But I would like to go with Katz on the issue. You can get members to pick holes in someone’s profile, but to suggest a fix is totally a different horse.

    The web is replete with articles listing popular clichés people should avoid in order to cut a unique figure. These are far from helpful. We are instinctively fashioned to go the mob way. But the psychological triggers work differently than genetic triggers when it comes to dating sphere. Well-known profile writing sites like Heusinte and E-Cyrano know the nuances full well. That’s why profile written through them will always have a jump on other profiles in the datosphere.

    As for Markus, he is keeping himself busy with what he is extremely good at. That is, making his site vociferously people-friendly and tacitly people-centric.

    11 David Evans December 15, 2008 at 12:18 pm
    I used to feel much more strongly about writing a strong profile. Now I realize that if the person can’t write about themselves, then I probably don’t want to date them. A bad profile had become a filter, as price has, to week out the casual/sloppy/unimaginative people out there.

    A text-parsing system and a decent set of machine-generated questions could write a better profile than most people. You two have the high-end, which is a small market. I’d rather see dating sites themselves create better profile systems, which would alleviate the need to have someone else write your profile.

    Crowdsourcing works too, in certain cases.

    12 Gaurav Barot December 15, 2008 at 2:51 pm
    With all due respect to you, David, I want to beg differ. A weak profile doesn’t tantamount to a weak personality or, for that matter, prove someone a scrub hand. There are peoples hailing from Latin American countries and English-battered part of Europe who haunt the dating sites in good numbers and are equally deserving. To assist them reproduce their mental blueprint is no mean job.

    Knock, knock. No leniency to laid-back, slapdash type. And, David, that makes us two.

    13 David Evans December 15, 2008 at 3:01 pm
    I didn’t say anything about weak personalities. Perhaps the discussion should be how much more effective are professionally-written profiles? I’ve never seen any research on this.

    If you’re talking about helping people who don’t have solid command of the English language, that makes sense. In that case, you should start offering your services in Asia.

    I’ve tried most profile writing services and written a few hundred myself. Getting people to explain who they are and what they are looking for should be better dealt with by dating sites, but there will always be a market for profile writing.

    14 Gaurav Barot December 15, 2008 at 3:33 pm
    There will always be a market for profile writing and to kill all creatively-challenged Goliaths there will always be one David.

    Pleasure meeting you.

    15 Moniboniz February 20, 2009 at 9:30 am
    Hello… ;)

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