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		<title>DownToEarth Traffic Update</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Compete says <a href="http://downtoearth.com" title="Down To Earth">DownToEarth</a>, Match.com's free dating site, is up to 188,000 members. DTE tells me they are not aggressively advertising the site, which is even more impressive.</p>
<p>Observations:</p>
<ul>
  <li>At least 50% of the women don't have photos.</li>

  <li>The majority of women in the Boston area I haven't seen on other sites.</li>

  <li>I am tiring of seeing dating sites advertising other dating sites. These "webrings" are good for traffic but in terms of branding, this is the kind of marketing that makes those outside the industry scratch their head. This would never work in another sector.</li>

  <li>Adjusting search criteria is *much* easier than on Match. Old Y! Personals search is still the best by far though.</li>

  <li>Tension between Christians and Myspacers is interesting. Jesus saves, check out my cleavage.</li>

  <li>Some photos are empty, some are grey, what's up with that?</li>
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<p>I'm chatting with a few women from Are You Interested and PlentyOfFish who are on DTE, they see the site as just another opportunity to get their face out there. All generally express low expectations. They are burnt out, as am I. Of course those are my connections, but nobody is seems excited about a new site. It's "here we go again". In this case, churn is good, singles new to online dating may show up all bright-eyed, optimistic and excited about a new site.</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>Compete says <a href="http://downtoearth.com" title="Down To Earth">DownToEarth</a>, Match.com&#8217;s free dating site, is up to 188,000 members. DTE tells me they are not aggressively advertising the site, which is even more impressive.</p>
<p>Observations:</p>
<ul>
<li>At least 50% of the women don&#8217;t have photos.</li>
<li>The majority of women in the Boston area I haven&#8217;t seen on other sites.</li>
<li>I am tiring of seeing dating sites advertising other dating sites. These &#8220;webrings&#8221; are good for traffic but in terms of branding, this is the kind of marketing that makes those outside the industry scratch their head. This would never work in another sector.</li>
<li>Adjusting search criteria is *much* easier than on Match. Old Y! Personals search is still the best by far though.</li>
<li>Tension between Christians and Myspacers is interesting. Jesus saves, check out my cleavage.</li>
<li>Some photos are empty, some are grey, what&#8217;s up with that?</li>
</ul>
<p>I&#8217;m chatting with a few women from Are You Interested and PlentyOfFish who are on DTE, they see the site as just another opportunity to get their face out there. All generally express low expectations. They are burnt out, as am I. Of course those are my connections, but nobody is seems excited about a new site. It&#8217;s &#8220;here we go again&#8221;. In this case, churn is good, singles new to online dating may show up all bright-eyed, optimistic and excited about a new site.</p>
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		<title>Match Goes Free, Launches Down To Earth Dating Site</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthlogo.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthlogo-tm.jpg" width="226" height="131" alt="downtoearthlogo.jpg" title="downtoearthlogo.jpg" class="left" /></a><span class="drop_cap">M</span>atch.com, the worldâ€™s largest online dating company, today announced the launch of <a href="http://downtoearth.com" title="Down To Earth">DownToEarth</a>, an innovative free online dating site. Last week I spoke with Jacob Solotaroff, the former Director of Product Management and Member Integrity at Match.com, who is tasked with running Down To Earth. <a href="http://stevenhammer.com/" title="Steve Hammer's Blog">Steve Hammer</a>, who heads up marketing for Down To Earth, was on the call as well.</p>
<p>We've all been waiting for Match to launch a free dating service. In the past they have discussed acquiring free dating sites, and last summer decided to forge ahead and build their own. Match realized there is room for a new free dating site which is clean and simple, a clear and direct response to <a href="http://plentyoffish.com/">PlentyofFish</a> and to some extent OKCupid. Down To Earth went live in December 2008, signing up 1,000 daily. Looks like around 20,000 people have joined the sites in the last few weeks, at least according to Compete, although you know how I feel about third-party analytics, the trends are usually spot on, the actual number, not so much. As a measure of success, Down To Earth is targeting 250k members by the end of 2009.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/homepage-ratingsnmouse.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/homepage-ratingsnmouse-tm.jpg" width="199" height="130" alt="homePage_ratingsNmouse.jpg" title="homePage_ratingsNmouse.jpg" class="right" /></a>DownToEarth.comâ€™s cornerstone feature, RealRatingsâ„¢, encourages daters, after meeting in person, to rate the accuracy of the information provided in the other personâ€™s profile. The five-star rating system allows daters to score the other personâ€™s accuracy from â€˜Not Even Closeâ€™ (one star) to â€˜True to Lifeâ€™ (five stars). Through actively encouraging daters to participate, DownToEarth.com empowers its community to create the dating environment theyâ€™re seeking.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/profileview-ratings.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/profileview-ratings-tm.jpg" width="157" height="119" alt="profileView_ratings.jpg" title="profileView_ratings.jpg" class="left" /></a>How RealRatings Works: After you've communicated with someone, you are asked if you've met face-to-face. If so, Down To Earth encourages you to rate them on a scale of 1 to 5 stars, where 1 star means "not even close" and 5 "true to life." Real Ratings let's you sort search results by reputation, login, newest users first.</p>
<p>Based on respectability and reliability, down To Earth believes that if people know they'll be called out on outdated pictures and little white lies in their profiles, they'll be less likely to post them. As part of the community you can help Down To Earth keep the site full of honest and respectful singles.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/photolibrary-uploadresize.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/photolibrary-uploadresize-tm.jpg" width="223" height="143" alt="PhotoLibrary_uploadResize.jpg" title="PhotoLibrary_uploadResize.jpg" class="right" /></a> Down To Earth will have a lot of new features coming down the pike to prove our users are who they say they are. Finally, a dating site that is taking ratings and reputation seriously! I have been rated yet, will be interesting to see how that works. Update, I just got rated, by a female friend. Where's the ability to add testimonials?</p>
<p>I asked Jacob about how Down To Earth fits in with Match corporate. Currently less than 10 people. Development was outsourced, running the same Microsoft system as Match. The company is located in the same building as Match and Chemistry to optimize workflow. They are getting lots of advice from Match, which has been around for 13 years.</p>
<p>When asked about profile approval and customer service, I was told that Down To Earth has no customer service, instead relying on community-based policing. Members can report each other via links on profiles and messaging threads. Married people get kicked. Not sure how they will accomplish this. Jacob says identity checking is "interesting".</p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthmemberhome.png"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthmemberhome-tm.jpg" width="148" height="100" alt="downtoearthmemberhome.png" title="downtoearthmemberhome.png" class="right" /></a>
<p>Who's on First? Signups to day have seen a large number of 18 year-olds. The site is not specifically targeting a particular market segment at this time. The site is seeing strong numbers of signups from the south and southwest. Most of them women I've talked to are vocally Christian and divorced. <em>See below for a possible explanation</em>.<br />
We talked about opening a bar and how some bars aim to be a neighborhood bar, only to turn gay after a few months. Or a gay bar that turns into an after work hangout or sports bar. My point is, you can only do so much to guarantee the demographics your want on your site are actually the ones that show up.</p>
<p>Down To Earth used a 30 year-old woman as guide. A single mother goes to church every week. Composite. Funny that I personally know 5 of the women on the site in my area.</p>
<p>The Down To Earth team pays close attention to YouTube, eBay and social networks for inspiration. Right now they are focused on building the community, not monetization. Notice the focus on community. I don't see a single reference as being a dating site.</p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthsearch.png"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthsearch-tm.jpg" width="131" height="100" alt="downtoearthsearch.png" title="downtoearthsearch.png" class="left" /></a>
<p>We spent a lot of time talking about how Down To Earth has the freedom to innovate. The philosophy guiding the team is highly experimental, test-and-measure. As a small, nimble group inside the Match empire, they pay close attention to customer feedback and are able to add new features quickly, avoiding much of the traditional big-company red tape that had traditionally hampered Match.</p>
<p>Down to Earth is being marketing using both traditional and untraditional means. The pay-per-post tactic that I previously blasted them for was a simple test. Money is being spent on search engine and word of mouth marketing.</p><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/fakefeatures-tm.jpg" width="112" height="100" alt="fakefeatures.png" title="fakefeatures.png" class="left" />
<p>I HATE ads like this, which look like features of the site you're on, but are actually links to other dating sites. The Federal Trade Commission is all over this unsavory marketing practice.</p>
<p>I've been sending out lots of emails and winks, will report back with the results. One thing I don't understand is why all my photos have a "Down To Earth" badge on them, and the majority of other people don't.</p>
<p>Down To Earth has done a good job with the photo management page, very clean and simple to use and promoting a photo as the primary one is simple.</p>
<p>Markus at PlentyofFish <a href="http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/its-official-matchcom-abandons-paid-dating/" title="Markus on Down to Earth">talks about DownToEarth</a>. He says the site looks really good. I disagree though that Match is abandoning paid dating. This is about going after another market sector. Ross Williams leaves a great <a href="http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/its-official-matchcom-abandons-paid-dating/#comment-112572">comment</a> about PoF starting a paid dating site and it's reliance on other paid dating sites for revenue.</p>
<p>I like to see that Steve has a public blog, it's full of interesting information. Did you know that Down To Earth was called free-singles.com during the initial testing phase? Initial testing was done with churches. Interesting that links to Jacob and Steve's blogs from Markus' blog redirect to DownToEarth (sigh).<br /></p>
<p>The Little Black Book is basically the Match Connections page. Much less clutter.</p>
<p>The partner page at Down To Earth features 20+ competing dating sites, most of which contain affiliate links. Very nice job with the <a href="http://downtoearth.com/Help.aspx" title="Down To Earth Help">help section</a>.</p>
<p>I worked with Dating Ad Network last summer. Many people said "oh, banner networks, how quaint", but this is effectively how Down To Earth, PlentyOfFish and many other dating sites drive traffic. What's old is new again.</p>
<p>I give Down To Earth a B+ for now. A very nice effort right out of the gate. Just wait until the marketing dollars start flowing, I'm sure things are going to evolve in coming months. We'll see what the primary demographic of the service turns out to be, right now it's feeling a bit too divorced hard-core Christian for me. Nothing wrong with that, it's still early days and there's always OKCupid, the "other" cleanly designed free dating site.</p>
<p>Go sign up and check out Down To Earth, I think you'll like what you see. Regardless, I urge you to leave a comment about your experience signing up and your first impressions of the service and it's members.</p>

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthlogo.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthlogo-tm.jpg" width="226" height="131" alt="downtoearthlogo.jpg" title="downtoearthlogo.jpg" class="left" /></a><span class="drop_cap">M</span>atch.com, the worldâ€™s largest online dating company, today announced the launch of <a href="http://downtoearth.com" title="Down To Earth">DownToEarth</a>, an innovative free online dating site. Last week I spoke with Jacob Solotaroff, the former Director of Product Management and Member Integrity at Match.com, who is tasked with running Down To Earth. <a href="http://stevenhammer.com/" title="Steve Hammer's Blog">Steve Hammer</a>, who heads up marketing for Down To Earth, was on the call as well.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve all been waiting for Match to launch a free dating service. In the past they have discussed acquiring free dating sites, and last summer decided to forge ahead and build their own. Match realized there is room for a new free dating site which is clean and simple, a clear and direct response to <a href="http://plentyoffish.com/">PlentyofFish</a> and to some extent OKCupid. Down To Earth went live in December 2008, signing up 1,000 daily. Looks like around 20,000 people have joined the sites in the last few weeks, at least according to Compete, although you know how I feel about third-party analytics, the trends are usually spot on, the actual number, not so much. As a measure of success, Down To Earth is targeting 250k members by the end of 2009.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/homepage-ratingsnmouse.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/homepage-ratingsnmouse-tm.jpg" width="199" height="130" alt="homePage_ratingsNmouse.jpg" title="homePage_ratingsNmouse.jpg" class="right" /></a>DownToEarth.comâ€™s cornerstone feature, RealRatingsâ„¢, encourages daters, after meeting in person, to rate the accuracy of the information provided in the other personâ€™s profile. The five-star rating system allows daters to score the other personâ€™s accuracy from â€˜Not Even Closeâ€™ (one star) to â€˜True to Lifeâ€™ (five stars). Through actively encouraging daters to participate, DownToEarth.com empowers its community to create the dating environment theyâ€™re seeking.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/profileview-ratings.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/profileview-ratings-tm.jpg" width="157" height="119" alt="profileView_ratings.jpg" title="profileView_ratings.jpg" class="left" /></a>How RealRatings Works: After you&#8217;ve communicated with someone, you are asked if you&#8217;ve met face-to-face. If so, Down To Earth encourages you to rate them on a scale of 1 to 5 stars, where 1 star means &#8220;not even close&#8221; and 5 &#8220;true to life.&#8221; Real Ratings let&#8217;s you sort search results by reputation, login, newest users first.</p>
<p>Based on respectability and reliability, down To Earth believes that if people know they&#8217;ll be called out on outdated pictures and little white lies in their profiles, they&#8217;ll be less likely to post them. As part of the community you can help Down To Earth keep the site full of honest and respectful singles.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/photolibrary-uploadresize.jpg"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/photolibrary-uploadresize-tm.jpg" width="223" height="143" alt="PhotoLibrary_uploadResize.jpg" title="PhotoLibrary_uploadResize.jpg" class="right" /></a> Down To Earth will have a lot of new features coming down the pike to prove our users are who they say they are. Finally, a dating site that is taking ratings and reputation seriously! I have been rated yet, will be interesting to see how that works. Update, I just got rated, by a female friend. Where&#8217;s the ability to add testimonials?</p>
<p>I asked Jacob about how Down To Earth fits in with Match corporate. Currently less than 10 people. Development was outsourced, running the same Microsoft system as Match. The company is located in the same building as Match and Chemistry to optimize workflow. They are getting lots of advice from Match, which has been around for 13 years.</p>
<p>When asked about profile approval and customer service, I was told that Down To Earth has no customer service, instead relying on community-based policing. Members can report each other via links on profiles and messaging threads. Married people get kicked. Not sure how they will accomplish this. Jacob says identity checking is &#8220;interesting&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthmemberhome.png"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthmemberhome-tm.jpg" width="148" height="100" alt="downtoearthmemberhome.png" title="downtoearthmemberhome.png" class="right" /></a></p>
<p>Who&#8217;s on First? Signups to day have seen a large number of 18 year-olds. The site is not specifically targeting a particular market segment at this time. The site is seeing strong numbers of signups from the south and southwest. Most of them women I&#8217;ve talked to are vocally Christian and divorced. <em>See below for a possible explanation</em>.<br />
We talked about opening a bar and how some bars aim to be a neighborhood bar, only to turn gay after a few months. Or a gay bar that turns into an after work hangout or sports bar. My point is, you can only do so much to guarantee the demographics your want on your site are actually the ones that show up.</p>
<p>Down To Earth used a 30 year-old woman as guide. A single mother goes to church every week. Composite. Funny that I personally know 5 of the women on the site in my area.</p>
<p>The Down To Earth team pays close attention to YouTube, eBay and social networks for inspiration. Right now they are focused on building the community, not monetization. Notice the focus on community. I don&#8217;t see a single reference as being a dating site.</p>
<p><a href="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthsearch.png"><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/downtoearthsearch-tm.jpg" width="131" height="100" alt="downtoearthsearch.png" title="downtoearthsearch.png" class="left" /></a></p>
<p>We spent a lot of time talking about how Down To Earth has the freedom to innovate. The philosophy guiding the team is highly experimental, test-and-measure. As a small, nimble group inside the Match empire, they pay close attention to customer feedback and are able to add new features quickly, avoiding much of the traditional big-company red tape that had traditionally hampered Match.</p>
<p>Down to Earth is being marketing using both traditional and untraditional means. The pay-per-post tactic that I previously blasted them for was a simple test. Money is being spent on search engine and word of mouth marketing.</p>
<p><img src="http://onlinedating.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/fakefeatures-tm.jpg" width="112" height="100" alt="fakefeatures.png" title="fakefeatures.png" class="left" /></p>
<p>I HATE ads like this, which look like features of the site you&#8217;re on, but are actually links to other dating sites. The Federal Trade Commission is all over this unsavory marketing practice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been sending out lots of emails and winks, will report back with the results. One thing I don&#8217;t understand is why all my photos have a &#8220;Down To Earth&#8221; badge on them, and the majority of other people don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Down To Earth has done a good job with the photo management page, very clean and simple to use and promoting a photo as the primary one is simple.</p>
<p>Markus at PlentyofFish <a href="http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/its-official-matchcom-abandons-paid-dating/" title="Markus on Down to Earth">talks about DownToEarth</a>. He says the site looks really good. I disagree though that Match is abandoning paid dating. This is about going after another market sector. Ross Williams leaves a great <a href="http://plentyoffish.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/its-official-matchcom-abandons-paid-dating/#comment-112572">comment</a> about PoF starting a paid dating site and it&#8217;s reliance on other paid dating sites for revenue.</p>
<p>I like to see that Steve has a public blog, it&#8217;s full of interesting information. Did you know that Down To Earth was called free-singles.com during the initial testing phase? Initial testing was done with churches. Interesting that links to Jacob and Steve&#8217;s blogs from Markus&#8217; blog redirect to DownToEarth (sigh).</p>
<p>The Little Black Book is basically the Match Connections page. Much less clutter.</p>
<p>The partner page at Down To Earth features 20+ competing dating sites, most of which contain affiliate links. Very nice job with the <a href="http://downtoearth.com/Help.aspx" title="Down To Earth Help">help section</a>.</p>
<p>I worked with Dating Ad Network last summer. Many people said &#8220;oh, banner networks, how quaint&#8221;, but this is effectively how Down To Earth, PlentyOfFish and many other dating sites drive traffic. What&#8217;s old is new again.</p>
<p>I give Down To Earth a B+ for now. A very nice effort right out of the gate. Just wait until the marketing dollars start flowing, I&#8217;m sure things are going to evolve in coming months. We&#8217;ll see what the primary demographic of the service turns out to be, right now it&#8217;s feeling a bit too divorced hard-core Christian for me. Nothing wrong with that, it&#8217;s still early days and there&#8217;s always OKCupid, the &#8220;other&#8221; cleanly designed free dating site.</p>
<p>Go sign up and check out Down To Earth, I think you&#8217;ll like what you see. Regardless, I urge you to leave a comment about your experience signing up and your first impressions of the service and it&#8217;s members.</p>
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