Comments on: Facebook’s New Privacy Settings http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/ Online Dating Industry Consulting & Commentary Thu, 24 May 2012 21:18:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: David Evans http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-252346 David Evans Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:52:28 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-252346 I agree with James. There is room for many different types of compatibility/matching systems. eHarmony isn't the final answer, neither is MatchMatrix. Rather, they are part of an ongoing movement to improve the process of helping people find each other. Someone could easily come from nowhere and introduce significant improvements, its happens all the time in other industries. I agree with James. There is room for many different types of compatibility/matching systems. eHarmony isn’t the final answer, neither is MatchMatrix. Rather, they are part of an ongoing movement to improve the process of helping people find each other. Someone could easily come from nowhere and introduce significant improvements, its happens all the time in other industries.

]]> By: Fernando Ardenghi http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-252340 Fernando Ardenghi Sat, 11 Jul 2009 19:08:38 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-252340 Hi Dr. Houran!!! "Let me say that education is still very much needed. For example, while personality matching makes sense to laypeople and despite some studies showing that personality similarity matters, meta-analyses of the extant literature and the latest studies on long-term compatibility show that personality similarity is not a crucial component." Dr. Houran, although you are a genius who cannot be beat, I could argue: * "personality" and "similarity" have different meanings for different persons or companies! * No one of those studies used the 16PF5 normative test available in different languages, the 5th version actualized after Census 2000 or other test with the 16 personality factors as established by Dr. Raymond Cattell in 1949. * Those studies failed on how to calculate similarity between quantized patterns. Even you and your team invented the PlentyofFish Relationship Chemistry Predictor based on a "46-item relationship test that assesses individuals' standing on five broad dimensions of personality." but failed on how to validate the test. "Validation of the POFCP was done using a national sample of individuals with the same demographic characteristics as members of the PlentyofFish community" /// "the only tool of its kind to match you to people worldwide" and failed on how to calculate "similarity" between prospectives mates. Latest Research in Theories of Romantic Relationships Development outlines: compatibility is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment. Even MatchMatrix with its "Each person has an energetic pattern. We overlay your energetic pattern on the pattern of a friend and look for intersecting points of compatibility." could be speaking about similarity in personality traits! Regards, Fernando Ardenghi. Buenos Aires. Argentina. ardenghifer@gmail.com Hi Dr. Houran!!!

“Let me say that education is still very much needed. For example, while personality matching makes sense to laypeople and despite some studies showing that personality similarity matters, meta-analyses of the extant literature and the latest studies on long-term compatibility show that personality similarity is not a crucial component.”

Dr. Houran, although you are a genius who cannot be beat, I could argue:
* “personality” and “similarity” have different meanings for different persons or companies!
* No one of those studies used the 16PF5 normative test available in different languages, the 5th version actualized after Census 2000 or other test with the 16 personality factors as established by Dr. Raymond Cattell in 1949.
* Those studies failed on how to calculate similarity between quantized patterns. Even you and your team invented the PlentyofFish Relationship Chemistry Predictor based on a “46-item relationship test that assesses individuals’ standing on five broad dimensions of personality.” but failed on how to validate the test. “Validation of the POFCP was done using a national sample of individuals with the same demographic characteristics as members of the PlentyofFish community” /// “the only tool of its kind to match you to people worldwide” and failed on how to calculate “similarity” between prospectives mates.

Latest Research in Theories of Romantic Relationships Development outlines: compatibility is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment.

Even MatchMatrix with its “Each person has an energetic pattern. We overlay your energetic pattern on the pattern of a friend and look for intersecting points of compatibility.” could be speaking about similarity in personality traits!

Regards,

Fernando Ardenghi.
Buenos Aires.
Argentina.
ardenghifer@gmail.com

]]> By: James Houran, Ph.D. http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-252158 James Houran, Ph.D. Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:45:56 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-252158 Hi all, Please let me contribute to the discussion on MatchMatrix, since I've received many private messages about this latest offering in the compatibility market. I met Larry at the recent iDate conference, and he was more than happy to answer the questions I had off the top of my head and to give me a demo. As everyone probably knows by now, I am skeptical of any test/method that doesn't have any real psychometric data behind it ("DNA" dating is a great example here, but to be fair one such service is attempting validation studies as we speak). All grounded and trained scientists are skeptical of any new or untested claims. My understanding is that Larry himself was skeptical at first about the very system he is standing behind now. However, I publicly applaud Larry and Frank for their willingness to participate in some scientific validation studies of the effectiveness of the MatchMatrix system. We have had some recent talks about what approach would be best given the resources we all have, and they are committed to a legitimate examination of their process. We believe that studies like this will offer consumers more confidence in marketing claims, and hopefully the process will contribute some great new information on theories of love and attachment. Let me say that education is still very much needed. For example, while personality matching makes sense to laypeople and despite some studies showing that personality similarity matters, meta-analyses of the extant literature and the latest studies on long-term compatibility show that personality similarity is not a crucial component. I'm at the stage where I'm trying to learn more about the idea behind "energetic compatibility," so we can devise proper studies to evaluate its validity in principle and practice. Stay tuned! In the mean time, I wish more systems would have their theoretical foundations evaluated by qualified scientists. As far as I am concerned, Larry and Frank are setting a great example by collaborating and testing their ideas in a responsible way. I have no idea what the studies will show, but you can be sure the outcome research will be shared. Thanks, James Houran, Ph.D. www.OnlineDatingMagazine.com Hi all,

Please let me contribute to the discussion on MatchMatrix, since I’ve received many private messages about this latest offering in the compatibility market.

I met Larry at the recent iDate conference, and he was more than happy to answer the questions I had off the top of my head and to give me a demo. As everyone probably knows by now, I am skeptical of any test/method that doesn’t have any real psychometric data behind it (“DNA” dating is a great example here, but to be fair one such service is attempting validation studies as we speak). All grounded and trained scientists are skeptical of any new or untested claims. My understanding is that Larry himself was skeptical at first about the very system he is standing behind now.

However, I publicly applaud Larry and Frank for their willingness to participate in some scientific validation studies of the effectiveness of the MatchMatrix system. We have had some recent talks about what approach would be best given the resources we all have, and they are committed to a legitimate examination of their process. We believe that studies like this will offer consumers more confidence in marketing claims, and hopefully the process will contribute some great new information on theories of love and attachment.

Let me say that education is still very much needed. For example, while personality matching makes sense to laypeople and despite some studies showing that personality similarity matters, meta-analyses of the extant literature and the latest studies on long-term compatibility show that personality similarity is not a crucial component.

I’m at the stage where I’m trying to learn more about the idea behind “energetic compatibility,” so we can devise proper studies to evaluate its validity in principle and practice. Stay tuned!

In the mean time, I wish more systems would have their theoretical foundations evaluated by qualified scientists. As far as I am concerned, Larry and Frank are setting a great example by collaborating and testing their ideas in a responsible way. I have no idea what the studies will show, but you can be sure the outcome research will be shared.

Thanks,

James Houran, Ph.D.
http://www.OnlineDatingMagazine.com

]]> By: Denise Albright http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-252039 Denise Albright Fri, 10 Jul 2009 20:21:01 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-252039 Hey Fernando, It sounds like you have your own thing you want to promote. Maybe its "the answer". I can't tell from what you're saying. Please don't bother explaining to me. I like what I'm using and it's been totally accurate. BTW, you probably don't really understand MatchMatrix cause there is nothing like it I've ever seen..and I've seen plenty. Be cool. D Hey Fernando,

It sounds like you have your own thing you want to promote. Maybe its “the answer”. I can’t tell from what you’re saying. Please don’t bother explaining to me. I like what I’m using and it’s been totally accurate. BTW, you probably don’t really understand MatchMatrix cause there is nothing like it I’ve ever seen..and I’ve seen plenty. Be cool. D

]]> By: Larry Michel http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251713 Larry Michel Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:55:05 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251713 Hi Mark,   Thanks for your request for more information.   If what you want is a solid way to substantiate the MatchMatrix compatibility system people say there is none better than from one’s own experience. That’s why we invite everyone to try our compatibility matching system for free— to experience for oneself how accurate it is. Anyone can get a free trial at www.matchmatrix.com.   Follow the instructions and look at relationships were you lived together for a good period of time. Yes, this is anecdotal, but after 30 years of development and testing the accuracy is remarkable.    Why do we say look at live-in long-term relationships? We all know there is a “Honeymoon” phase when attractions are running the show. The honeymoon is over when people settle into the way they are naturally.  Why living together?  Because we look at an energetic element in the relationship that has little influence when people are not sharing the same space.   We’ve all heard about the couple that had a long distance relationship for years; then one of them traveled across the country to move in and within weeks it was over. There’s a lot more going on then finding out if the person folds their socks or not. We provide a way to know the issues up front so they can be avoided or managed before they come to the surface.    As for making dating connections on Social Networks… The Best Friends and Lovers application on Facebook (http://www.new.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=15307238458&ref=s) gives an opportunity for people to use the MatchMatrix system to interact within their social network and at the same time discover a meaningful and reliable way to instantly know the potential of their relationships. They can sort, search and communicate much like a dating site and have the added value of Facebook’s email and chat. The new PLAY CUPID section makes it possible for friends to help other friends meet people they’re truly compatible with. This is dating and match-making on steroids.  The transparency that is very much a part of Facebook and many other social networks is a plus. This makes for more authentic connections; that sounds to us like a real advantage for dating. We want everyone to enjoy the best quality relationships they can have. MatchMatrix is providing new guidance for relationships that removes the major obstacles to fully honoring, appreciating, acknowledging and loving the important people in their lives. At the same time we help people understand past or current challenges so they can move beyond the guilt, blame and resentments that to often cripples a relationship. Please tell us what kind of test you’re looking for. In the meantime we’ll continue to change lives in a very positive way by offering relationship predictability FOR ANYONE frustrated with the results they are currently getting. The more dating sites that ADD this system to their mix, the more satisfied customers there will be. Hi Mark,
 
Thanks for your request for more information.
 
If what you want is a solid way to substantiate the MatchMatrix compatibility system people say there is none better than from one’s own experience. That’s why we invite everyone to try our compatibility matching system for free— to experience for oneself how accurate it is. Anyone can get a free trial at http://www.matchmatrix.com.
 
Follow the instructions and look at relationships were you lived together for a good period of time. Yes, this is anecdotal, but after 30 years of development and testing the accuracy is remarkable. 
 
Why do we say look at live-in long-term relationships? We all know there is a “Honeymoon” phase when attractions are running the show. The honeymoon is over when people settle into the way they are naturally.  Why living together?  Because we look at an energetic element in the relationship that has little influence when people are not sharing the same space.
 
We’ve all heard about the couple that had a long distance relationship for years; then one of them traveled across the country to move in and within weeks it was over. There’s a lot more going on then finding out if the person folds their socks or not. We provide a way to know the issues up front so they can be avoided or managed before they come to the surface.
  
As for making dating connections on Social Networks… The Best Friends and Lovers application on Facebook (http://www.new.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=15307238458&ref=s) gives an opportunity for people to use the MatchMatrix system to interact within their social network and at the same time discover a meaningful and reliable way to instantly know the potential of their relationships. They can sort, search and communicate much like a dating site and have the added value of Facebook’s email and chat. The new PLAY CUPID section makes it possible for friends to help other friends meet people they’re truly compatible with. This is dating and match-making on steroids. 

The transparency that is very much a part of Facebook and many other social networks is a plus. This makes for more authentic connections; that sounds to us like a real advantage for dating.

We want everyone to enjoy the best quality relationships they can have. MatchMatrix is providing new guidance for relationships that removes the major obstacles to fully honoring, appreciating, acknowledging and loving the important people in their lives.

At the same time we help people understand past or current challenges so they can move beyond the guilt, blame and resentments that to often cripples a relationship.

Please tell us what kind of test you’re looking for. In the meantime we’ll continue to change lives in a very positive way by offering relationship predictability FOR ANYONE frustrated with the results they are currently getting. The more dating sites that ADD this system to their mix, the more satisfied customers there will be.

]]> By: EricDuany http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251706 EricDuany Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:44:18 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251706 As someone who uses online dating, are there any numbers on what is more succesful for people meeting? Relying on personality matches, or some sort of system that matches with you someone who has like for like interests. Or are there more connections based on people just doing a search, and looking at pictures and profiles and sending to who they like. How I personally do it, is I search based on body type atheltic or slender, because I want to be physically attracted to that person, and I have noticed when it tries to match me up with other people I usually am not interested right away based on body type. As someone who uses online dating, are there any numbers on what is more succesful for people meeting? Relying on personality matches, or some sort of system that matches with you someone who has like for like interests. Or are there more connections based on people just doing a search, and looking at pictures and profiles and sending to who they like.

How I personally do it, is I search based on body type atheltic or slender, because I want to be physically attracted to that person, and I have noticed when it tries to match me up with other people I usually am not interested right away based on body type.

]]> By: Fernando Ardenghi http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251703 Fernando Ardenghi Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:36:38 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251703 Hello Denise! You do not need to prove a piston engine when you need a jet engine to break sound barrier. break sound barrier == revolutionize the Online Dating Industry MatchMatrix is not going to revolutionize the Online Dating Industry. It is more or less the same stuff already available. Online dating sites offering compatibility matching methods could reach "as low as" 3 to 4 persons "high compatible" per 1,000 persons screened, so in a 10,000,000 persons database, you have as many as 30,000 to 40,000 persons to contact, that means a whole precision LESS than anyone could achieve by searching on one's own! Latest Research in Theories of Romantic Relationships Development indicates it is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment. Compatibility matching methods has 2 steps: 1) to measure personality traits or other variables. 2) to calculate compatibility between prospective mates. MatchMatrix does not include any normative personality test in its matching method. MatchMatrix can not prove its matching algorithm can match prospective partners who will have more stable and satisfying relationships than couples matched by chance, astrological destiny, personal preferences, searching on one's own, or other technique as the control group in a peer_reviewed Scientifc Paper. Regards, Fernando Ardenghi. Buenos Aires. Argentina. ardenghifer@gmail.com Hello Denise!

You do not need to prove a piston engine when you need a jet engine to break sound barrier.

break sound barrier == revolutionize the Online Dating Industry

MatchMatrix is not going to revolutionize the Online Dating Industry. It is more or less the same stuff already available. Online dating sites offering compatibility matching methods could reach “as low as” 3 to 4 persons “high compatible” per 1,000 persons screened, so in a 10,000,000 persons database, you have as many as 30,000 to 40,000 persons to contact, that means a whole precision LESS than anyone could achieve by searching on one’s own!

Latest Research in Theories of Romantic Relationships Development indicates it is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment.
Compatibility matching methods has 2 steps:
1) to measure personality traits or other variables.
2) to calculate compatibility between prospective mates.

MatchMatrix does not include any normative personality test in its matching method.

MatchMatrix can not prove its matching algorithm can match prospective partners who will have more stable and satisfying relationships than couples matched by chance, astrological destiny, personal preferences, searching on one’s own, or other technique as the control group in a peer_reviewed Scientifc Paper.

Regards,

Fernando Ardenghi.
Buenos Aires.
Argentina.
ardenghifer@gmail.com

]]> By: Denise Albright http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251624 Denise Albright Thu, 09 Jul 2009 17:15:34 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251624 I checked out Match Matrix some time ago as well. They have added a new product that provides ratings. It makes it easy to identify great matches without reading 100's of reports. It's the same rating system they use on Facebook. BTW, the app is called Best Friends and Lovers. I think it has gone through a number of upgrades. The latest is the most useful tool for checking out people I've seen on Facebook. Fun too! Fernando... you might want to read the literature about Attractions on the Match Matrix site. I think they agree with you about the long term importance. But, I have False Attractions and knowing that explains more than you can imagine. Made a big difference for me. I checked out Match Matrix some time ago as well. They have added a new product that provides ratings. It makes it easy to identify great matches without reading 100′s of reports. It’s the same rating system they use on Facebook. BTW, the app is called Best Friends and Lovers. I think it has gone through a number of upgrades. The latest is the most useful tool for checking out people I’ve seen on Facebook. Fun too!

Fernando… you might want to read the literature about Attractions on the Match Matrix site. I think they agree with you about the long term importance. But, I have False Attractions and knowing that explains more than you can imagine. Made a big difference for me.

]]> By: Fernando Ardenghi http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251398 Fernando Ardenghi Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:29:57 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251398 The word "compatibility" has different meanings for different persons or companies! I remember I checked MatchMatrix some time ago. One of the inventors of MatchMatrix died in 2005. MatchMatrix is based on: "The old saying that men are attracted to women like their mother and women are attracted to men like their father is true. MatchMatrix is the only source that provides an objective way to accurately explain the dynamics of an attraction. The reliability of a person's attraction is determined by the emotional imprint from their opposite parent at the moment of birth. A person is attracted to someone with the same style of communication as their opposite parent. " MatchMatrix indicates/expresses compatibility between prospective mates as a group of icons and a very long written report and NOT as percentage like: 92.55033557% +/- 0.00000001% Imagine if you have to screen 100,000 prospective mates and read 100,000 reports!!! MatchMatrix does not have any Scientific Proof to substantiate its matching method. Morever: What is important in attracting people to one another may not be important in making couples happy!!! WeAttract, died some time ago. Some Researchers think it is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment. Regards, Fernando Ardenghi. Buenos Aires. Argentina. ardenghifer@gmail.com The word “compatibility” has different meanings for different persons or companies!

I remember I checked MatchMatrix some time ago.
One of the inventors of MatchMatrix died in 2005.
MatchMatrix is based on:
“The old saying that men are attracted to women like their mother and women are attracted to men like their father is true. MatchMatrix is the only source that provides an objective way to accurately explain the dynamics of an attraction. The reliability of a person’s attraction is determined by the emotional imprint from their opposite parent at the moment of birth. A person is attracted to someone with the same style of communication as their opposite parent. ”

MatchMatrix indicates/expresses compatibility between prospective mates
as a group of icons and a very long written report
and NOT as
percentage like: 92.55033557% +/- 0.00000001%

Imagine if you have to screen 100,000 prospective mates and read 100,000 reports!!!

MatchMatrix does not have any Scientific Proof to substantiate its matching method.
Morever: What is important in attracting people to one another may not be important in making couples happy!!!
WeAttract, died some time ago.

Some Researchers think it is all about a high level on personality similarity between prospective mates for long term mating with commitment.

Regards,

Fernando Ardenghi.
Buenos Aires.
Argentina.
ardenghifer@gmail.com

]]> By: Mark Brooks http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/comment-page-1/#comment-251364 Mark Brooks Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:22:24 +0000 http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/07/facebooks-new-privacy-settings/#comment-251364 Nope, read through it. Says absolutely diddley about the basis of the test, in earnest. "We use a birth date as the point of entry to an extremely complex system of information. This is not astrology; it’scompletely different!" "Questionnairesare good for letting other people know what you think about yourself bystating your likes and dislikes. These answers are all from the mind!That’snot where the surprises come from. The surprises come from a deeper,feeling place not revealed in a questionnaire." This page shows info on the results, but nothing that eludes as to the basis of the test. http://www.matchmatrix.com/Public/UnderstandingYourMatchMatrix/4LifestyleTraits/index.cfm What are you sending prospective clients when they ask the question, on what basis is the test made? What exactly would we paying for in licensing this matching system? The answers elude me. They're not on the website, they've not been revealed at iDate, and as much as I like the people behind MatchMatrix, I'm as in the dark, on the basis of this test, as when I started talking with them. I hear energy, eternity, trust us, but I've not heard a shred of anything with any real basis or meaning. I'd really like to. Please enlighten me/us. Nope, read through it. Says absolutely diddley about the basis of the test, in earnest.

“We use a birth date as the point of entry to an extremely complex system of information. This is not astrology; it’scompletely different!”

“Questionnairesare good for letting other people know what you think about yourself bystating your likes and dislikes. These answers are all from the mind!That’snot where the surprises come from. The surprises come from a deeper,feeling place not revealed in a questionnaire.”

This page shows info on the results, but nothing that eludes as to the basis of the test. http://www.matchmatrix.com/Public/UnderstandingYourMatchMatrix/4LifestyleTraits/index.cfm

What are you sending prospective clients when they ask the question, on what basis is the test made? What exactly would we paying for in licensing this matching system? The answers elude me. They’re not on the website, they’ve not been revealed at iDate, and as much as I like the people behind MatchMatrix, I’m as in the dark, on the basis of this test, as when I started talking with them.

I hear energy, eternity, trust us, but I’ve not heard a shred of anything with any real basis or meaning. I’d really like to. Please enlighten me/us.

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