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	<title>Comments on: Omnidate Competing with Online Dating Sites</title>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn, good to meet you. Do you consult for dating sites?

Everyone in the industry is thoroughly familiar with Omnidate. Mark Brooks has done his job. Now we get to see the difference between a successful PR effort and just how good a product really is at delivering a solution that the industry wants at this time.

There is a thing called due diligence. All biz dev people do it. Either companies come out looking good or you go back to the drawing board until you get it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn, good to meet you. Do you consult for dating sites?</p>
<p>Everyone in the industry is thoroughly familiar with Omnidate. Mark Brooks has done his job. Now we get to see the difference between a successful PR effort and just how good a product really is at delivering a solution that the industry wants at this time.</p>
<p>There is a thing called due diligence. All biz dev people do it. Either companies come out looking good or you go back to the drawing board until you get it right.</p>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/02/omnidate-competing-with-online-dating-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-235792</link>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Igor, this has nothing to do with fact checking. I went to your site, I created an account and filled out a profile, communicated with people and set up a date. To me thats being open for business, regardless of if you promote the site or not. Don&#039;t try to argue this with me you will lose. Your home page says &quot;Free try it now sign in&quot;. Easy enough to fix, right? Glad to help clarify the situation, as I&#039;m not the first person to make the observation.

I disagree about any having any misconception around your value proposition. It&#039;s quite clear for members. Whats not clear is if the dating industry is going to warm up to virtual dating. This is par for the course in terms of partnerships in the space, just talk to Jangl, Backgrounchecks and anyone trying to get their product &quot;on deck&quot; at a dating site. 

Notice I didn&#039;t say if, I said when. Services like your&#039;s are at the mercy of  the business development people and your success lies in convincing them that virtual dating is going to bring in more revenue, through usage fees, ad impressions/clicks or otherwise. 

Having 48 hours to meet with the entire dating industry F2F doesn&#039;t leave a lot of time to see presentations. Wish I had more time to see everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Igor, this has nothing to do with fact checking. I went to your site, I created an account and filled out a profile, communicated with people and set up a date. To me thats being open for business, regardless of if you promote the site or not. Don&#8217;t try to argue this with me you will lose. Your home page says &#8220;Free try it now sign in&#8221;. Easy enough to fix, right? Glad to help clarify the situation, as I&#8217;m not the first person to make the observation.</p>
<p>I disagree about any having any misconception around your value proposition. It&#8217;s quite clear for members. Whats not clear is if the dating industry is going to warm up to virtual dating. This is par for the course in terms of partnerships in the space, just talk to Jangl, Backgrounchecks and anyone trying to get their product &#8220;on deck&#8221; at a dating site. </p>
<p>Notice I didn&#8217;t say if, I said when. Services like your&#8217;s are at the mercy of  the business development people and your success lies in convincing them that virtual dating is going to bring in more revenue, through usage fees, ad impressions/clicks or otherwise. </p>
<p>Having 48 hours to meet with the entire dating industry F2F doesn&#8217;t leave a lot of time to see presentations. Wish I had more time to see everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn G. Millar</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/02/omnidate-competing-with-online-dating-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-235791</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn G. Millar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

I think you have your main facts a bit wrong.  OmniDate is just a test site for their app.  I know this because I have recommended OmniDate to a number of my clients in the dating industry and will continue to do so.  We have been ecstatic with the app.  And we have been more than happy with the support we have gotten from Ravit and Igor.  In fact, they have openly promoted our client&#039;s dating websites to the people that come to their site. 

Since the OmniDate website is free to consumers and OmniDate makes money on the app by providing it to dating websites, it wouldn&#039;t make any fiscal sense for them to try to take consumers away from their customers websites.  Anything else is counterintuitive.

I think at this point, it would be prudent for you to interview OmniDate and publish that interview.

As for me, as an independent consultant ensuring that my clients create the best websites, I happily recommend OmniDate and will continue to do so, knowing that it  increases the viability and success of the client site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p>I think you have your main facts a bit wrong.  OmniDate is just a test site for their app.  I know this because I have recommended OmniDate to a number of my clients in the dating industry and will continue to do so.  We have been ecstatic with the app.  And we have been more than happy with the support we have gotten from Ravit and Igor.  In fact, they have openly promoted our client&#8217;s dating websites to the people that come to their site. </p>
<p>Since the OmniDate website is free to consumers and OmniDate makes money on the app by providing it to dating websites, it wouldn&#8217;t make any fiscal sense for them to try to take consumers away from their customers websites.  Anything else is counterintuitive.</p>
<p>I think at this point, it would be prudent for you to interview OmniDate and publish that interview.</p>
<p>As for me, as an independent consultant ensuring that my clients create the best websites, I happily recommend OmniDate and will continue to do so, knowing that it  increases the viability and success of the client site.</p>
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		<title>By: Igor Kotlyar, Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/02/omnidate-competing-with-online-dating-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-235789</link>
		<dc:creator>Igor Kotlyar, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dave, 

Your main assertion about OmniDate is completely inaccurate.

OmniDate is NOT running a destination site, as we would never compete with our clients!  Our business model is to provide virtual dating technology to dating sites, which allows them to offer a 3D virtual dating experience to their members.  The integration is completely seamless and users dont leave the dating site.

Our site was created as an â€œonline research labâ€ to refine our technology and to collect data on usage patterns (unfortunately, no dating site wanted to be the guinea pig).  For example, we found that virtual dating has a strong appeal among women users, virtual dates last half-hour, etc. (we presented these finding at the iDate Miami conference last month and it would have been nice to see you at our presentation).

Itâ€™s true that OmniDate is experiencing an inflow of traffic (and media attention).  However, we are channeling this traffic to our clients â€“ at no fee, of course.  Btw, please note that we donâ€™t buy traffic or advertise our site â€“ our visitors find us because there is a growing interest in virtual dating.

Itâ€™s also true that we are experimenting with some really cool ideas in our â€œonline research labâ€ (such the â€œHow Charming Am I?â€ feature).  We will make the best ideas available to our clients when perfected.

Virtual dating is an exciting and a highly effective concept, but, unfortunately, there is still a certain amount of misconception associated with it.  As always, we are happy to speak with you if you&#039;d like to do some fact checking beforehand, 416-623-7445.

Igor Kotlyar, Ph.D.
Founder
OmniDate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dave, </p>
<p>Your main assertion about OmniDate is completely inaccurate.</p>
<p>OmniDate is NOT running a destination site, as we would never compete with our clients!  Our business model is to provide virtual dating technology to dating sites, which allows them to offer a 3D virtual dating experience to their members.  The integration is completely seamless and users dont leave the dating site.</p>
<p>Our site was created as an â€œonline research labâ€ to refine our technology and to collect data on usage patterns (unfortunately, no dating site wanted to be the guinea pig).  For example, we found that virtual dating has a strong appeal among women users, virtual dates last half-hour, etc. (we presented these finding at the iDate Miami conference last month and it would have been nice to see you at our presentation).</p>
<p>Itâ€™s true that OmniDate is experiencing an inflow of traffic (and media attention).  However, we are channeling this traffic to our clients â€“ at no fee, of course.  Btw, please note that we donâ€™t buy traffic or advertise our site â€“ our visitors find us because there is a growing interest in virtual dating.</p>
<p>Itâ€™s also true that we are experimenting with some really cool ideas in our â€œonline research labâ€ (such the â€œHow Charming Am I?â€ feature).  We will make the best ideas available to our clients when perfected.</p>
<p>Virtual dating is an exciting and a highly effective concept, but, unfortunately, there is still a certain amount of misconception associated with it.  As always, we are happy to speak with you if you&#8217;d like to do some fact checking beforehand, 416-623-7445.</p>
<p>Igor Kotlyar, Ph.D.<br />
Founder<br />
OmniDate</p>
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