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	<title>Comments on: Snowy Sunday Social Dating Musings, Statistics</title>
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		<title>By: Fernando Ardenghi</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235282</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando Ardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 17:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The greatest mistake Match ever made was taking away the MatchFriends social networking component circa 2003.&quot;

Because they had bought the social networking site ZeroDegrees. It was discretely buried by circa 2005, although the Udate homepage still has a link to it!

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&quot;What do you mean Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded? I don&#039;t understand.&quot;




* For USA&amp;Canada only: Daily5 has its own algorithm to provide matches, and Chemistry is an independent site from Match. Daily5 is a recommendation engine and Chemistry is a personality matching method.



* Outside USA&amp;Canada: the &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded, because Chemistry was merged with Match. 
The Executive Team at Match decided to translate and change some pics to customize the pseudo-normative test used in Chemistry, from the original English version for USA&amp;Canada. 

â€”-Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and other Latin American countries: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Cupido Diario
â€”-Portugal: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Cupido Diario
â€”-Australia, New Zealand, Philippines: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5
â€”-Spain: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Afinesati
â€”-Italy: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Com-Bacio 
â€”-United Kingdom: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Match.com Personality Test
â€”-Norway, Finland, Denmark: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as MatchMe
â€”-Netherlands, Belgium: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Chemie
â€”-France: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Alchimie
â€”-Austria, Germany: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Amor
â€”-Ireland: &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5
â€”-China, Japan, Korea and other asiatic countries &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded, they only changed 3 pictures to give them an asiatic-look (workplace, couple kissing and different type of houses).  
-- Match International site &quot;Daily5&quot; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5


The Daily5 for USA&amp;Canada is different from the &quot;Daily5&quot; outside USA&amp;Canada.


Regards, 

Fernando Ardenghi. 
Buenos Aires. 
Argentina. 
ardenghifer@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The greatest mistake Match ever made was taking away the MatchFriends social networking component circa 2003.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because they had bought the social networking site ZeroDegrees. It was discretely buried by circa 2005, although the Udate homepage still has a link to it!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you mean Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded? I don&#8217;t understand.&#8221;</p>
<p>* For USA&amp;Canada only: Daily5 has its own algorithm to provide matches, and Chemistry is an independent site from Match. Daily5 is a recommendation engine and Chemistry is a personality matching method.</p>
<p>* Outside USA&amp;Canada: the &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded, because Chemistry was merged with Match.<br />
The Executive Team at Match decided to translate and change some pics to customize the pseudo-normative test used in Chemistry, from the original English version for USA&amp;Canada. </p>
<p>â€”-Mexico, Chile, Argentina, Brazil and other Latin American countries: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Cupido Diario<br />
â€”-Portugal: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Cupido Diario<br />
â€”-Australia, New Zealand, Philippines: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5<br />
â€”-Spain: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Afinesati<br />
â€”-Italy: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Com-Bacio<br />
â€”-United Kingdom: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Match.com Personality Test<br />
â€”-Norway, Finland, Denmark: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as MatchMe<br />
â€”-Netherlands, Belgium: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Chemie<br />
â€”-France: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Alchimie<br />
â€”-Austria, Germany: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Amor<br />
â€”-Ireland: &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5<br />
â€”-China, Japan, Korea and other asiatic countries &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded, they only changed 3 pictures to give them an asiatic-look (workplace, couple kissing and different type of houses).<br />
&#8211; Match International site &#8220;Daily5&#8243; is Chemistry rebranded as Daily5</p>
<p>The Daily5 for USA&amp;Canada is different from the &#8220;Daily5&#8243; outside USA&amp;Canada.</p>
<p>Regards, </p>
<p>Fernando Ardenghi.<br />
Buenos Aires.<br />
Argentina.<br />
<a href="mailto:ardenghifer@gmail.com">ardenghifer@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235277</link>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The greatest mistake Match ever made was taking away the MatchFriends social networking component circa 2003. I agree that I am getting tired of the recommendations from sites. Dating sites without personality tests still have little idea about who I am and what I&#039;m looking for.

What do you mean Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded? I don&#039;t understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The greatest mistake Match ever made was taking away the MatchFriends social networking component circa 2003. I agree that I am getting tired of the recommendations from sites. Dating sites without personality tests still have little idea about who I am and what I&#8217;m looking for.</p>
<p>What do you mean Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded? I don&#8217;t understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Ardenghi</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235267</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando Ardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The way that most dating sites and social apps recommend people to me is broken. Matchâ€™s Daily5 is fair, and they vow to continue improving the algorithm&quot;

The only real internal success indicator for the marketing team at Match, is to cross the barrier of (and sustain) more than 2,000,000 paying subscribers for IAC&#039;s Personals but .....
I think the Daily5 (worldwide) is the greatest mistake Match had ever made, in less than 6 months, Daily5 will end wearying/annoying its customers.
(Outside USA&amp;Canada, the Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded).


Regards, 

Fernando Ardenghi. 
Buenos Aires. 
Argentina. 
ardenghifer@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The way that most dating sites and social apps recommend people to me is broken. Matchâ€™s Daily5 is fair, and they vow to continue improving the algorithm&#8221;</p>
<p>The only real internal success indicator for the marketing team at Match, is to cross the barrier of (and sustain) more than 2,000,000 paying subscribers for IAC&#8217;s Personals but &#8230;..<br />
I think the Daily5 (worldwide) is the greatest mistake Match had ever made, in less than 6 months, Daily5 will end wearying/annoying its customers.<br />
(Outside USA&amp;Canada, the Daily5 is Chemistry rebranded).</p>
<p>Regards, </p>
<p>Fernando Ardenghi.<br />
Buenos Aires.<br />
Argentina.<br />
<a href="mailto:ardenghifer@gmail.com">ardenghifer@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235266</link>
		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving people new features that match them more effectively would certainly help. I understand that you do so interesting stuff behind the scenes but it makes sense to consider working with partners who may be able to develop features that improve the PoF experience.

Better introductions don&#039;t have to create a negative viral feedback loop, it&#039;s all in the implementation. We&#039;ll see in a few months if the Daily 5 works for people, regardless of the traffic increase at Match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving people new features that match them more effectively would certainly help. I understand that you do so interesting stuff behind the scenes but it makes sense to consider working with partners who may be able to develop features that improve the PoF experience.</p>
<p>Better introductions don&#8217;t have to create a negative viral feedback loop, it&#8217;s all in the implementation. We&#8217;ll see in a few months if the Daily 5 works for people, regardless of the traffic increase at Match.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Strank</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235247</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Strank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 01:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess we are bucking this trend.  We&#039;ve already launched a full-featured Facebook dating app for Jewish Singles called &lt;a href=&quot;http://apps.facebook.com/jewish-singles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tribester Preview&lt;/a&gt; that is gaining some traction and will be launching a full-featured dating application geared for all (called &quot;We Just Click&quot;) within the next two weeks.  We also have apps for gay, asian and black singles set to launch shortly.  

I realize that monetization may be an issue but that isn&#039;t our only reason for launching the apps (the Tribester app is meant as s stepping-stone to the upcoming Tribester.com Jewish Social Network, for instance).  Moreover, I have to believe,  particularly now that Facebook&#039;s reach is significantly broader, that there has to be a market for free, feature-rich dating applications, just as there is for the same users outside of Facebook&#039;s walls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess we are bucking this trend.  We&#8217;ve already launched a full-featured Facebook dating app for Jewish Singles called <a href="http://apps.facebook.com/jewish-singles/" rel="nofollow">Tribester Preview</a> that is gaining some traction and will be launching a full-featured dating application geared for all (called &#8220;We Just Click&#8221;) within the next two weeks.  We also have apps for gay, asian and black singles set to launch shortly.  </p>
<p>I realize that monetization may be an issue but that isn&#8217;t our only reason for launching the apps (the Tribester app is meant as s stepping-stone to the upcoming Tribester.com Jewish Social Network, for instance).  Moreover, I have to believe,  particularly now that Facebook&#8217;s reach is significantly broader, that there has to be a market for free, feature-rich dating applications, just as there is for the same users outside of Facebook&#8217;s walls.</p>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
		<link>http://onlinedatingpost.com/archives/2009/01/snowy-sunday-social-dating-musings-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-235242</link>
		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 21:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Markus should add widgets and an API to PlentyOfFish&quot;

And this would accomplish what exactly?   I don&#039;t see how this would allow people to meet and date faster or more effectively.

Matchâ€™s Daily5 is fair, and they vow to continue improving the algorithm, but the introductions I get for the most part never seem to make sense. SinglesNet and Mate 1 are a 10 on the scale of annoying use of this feature. But boy does it drive pageviews.

The long term effects of these kind of things are very very negative.  These sites make a brand promise they can&#039;t deliver on and it creates a strong negative viral feed back loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Markus should add widgets and an API to PlentyOfFish&#8221;</p>
<p>And this would accomplish what exactly?   I don&#8217;t see how this would allow people to meet and date faster or more effectively.</p>
<p>Matchâ€™s Daily5 is fair, and they vow to continue improving the algorithm, but the introductions I get for the most part never seem to make sense. SinglesNet and Mate 1 are a 10 on the scale of annoying use of this feature. But boy does it drive pageviews.</p>
<p>The long term effects of these kind of things are very very negative.  These sites make a brand promise they can&#8217;t deliver on and it creates a strong negative viral feed back loop.</p>
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