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		<title>By: Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember, mathematics are irrelevant is the matching system is not Valid.  Validity needs to first be established. </description>
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		<title>By: Online Dating</title>
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		<dc:creator>Online Dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 15:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think &quot;crowd mining&quot; is a great concept, the difference between Netfix and your average dating site user is probably going to play a major factor in this.  Ok $1 million is a nice prize but seriously how many guys or girls eager to find a partner do you reckon will contribute to anything like that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think &#8220;crowd mining&#8221; is a great concept, the difference between Netfix and your average dating site user is probably going to play a major factor in this.  Ok $1 million is a nice prize but seriously how many guys or girls eager to find a partner do you reckon will contribute to anything like that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dating Sites Should Be More Like Netflix? &#124; The Relationship Tip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dating Sites Should Be More Like Netflix? &#124; The Relationship Tip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dating Sites Should Be More Like Netflix &#124; Online Dating Insider &#124; Find Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dating Sites Should Be More Like Netflix &#124; Online Dating Insider &#124; Find Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t take the results seriously because we&#039;re in the stone ages of compatibility testing. Thats like saying that cars are noisy and expensive, I&#039;ll stick with my horse.

Let us not forget, online dating is just one way to help you meet people. Too many people have bad experiences with people, and reflect their disappointment on the dating site, which is not always warranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t take the results seriously because we&#8217;re in the stone ages of compatibility testing. Thats like saying that cars are noisy and expensive, I&#8217;ll stick with my horse.</p>
<p>Let us not forget, online dating is just one way to help you meet people. Too many people have bad experiences with people, and reflect their disappointment on the dating site, which is not always warranted.</p>
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		<title>By: James Houran</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Houran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 14:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

Innovation with testing is happening all the time, but only with those organizations that actually invest in the proper resources to break new ground. Typically, this doesn&#039;t describe the industry&#039;s approach to compatibility systems -- much less eHarmony&#039;s matching system (they&#039;re no gold standard). 

Legitimate compatibility testing is easy to overlook or dismiss given all the hyped, flash in the pan, unsubstantiated and &quot;cutesy&quot; approaches on the market today by unqualified people (and yes, even relationship therapists and general psychologists can be unqualified). Moreover, users are not consistently educated on how to properly use compatibility testing. And finally, many commentators seem obsessed with defining or equating &quot;relationship success&quot; in terms of &quot;marriage&quot; -- a questionable benchmark at best. There are different types of relationships and measures of &quot;success&quot; so matching systems should adapt to the motives of the individual users.

Here&#039;s some suggested reading on the benefits and limitations of compatibility testing:

http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/features/compatibilitytesting.html
http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/datingoffice08/compatibilitytesting.html

Thanks,

James Houran, Ph.D.
www.OnlineDatingMagazine.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Innovation with testing is happening all the time, but only with those organizations that actually invest in the proper resources to break new ground. Typically, this doesn&#8217;t describe the industry&#8217;s approach to compatibility systems &#8212; much less eHarmony&#8217;s matching system (they&#8217;re no gold standard). </p>
<p>Legitimate compatibility testing is easy to overlook or dismiss given all the hyped, flash in the pan, unsubstantiated and &#8220;cutesy&#8221; approaches on the market today by unqualified people (and yes, even relationship therapists and general psychologists can be unqualified). Moreover, users are not consistently educated on how to properly use compatibility testing. And finally, many commentators seem obsessed with defining or equating &#8220;relationship success&#8221; in terms of &#8220;marriage&#8221; &#8212; a questionable benchmark at best. There are different types of relationships and measures of &#8220;success&#8221; so matching systems should adapt to the motives of the individual users.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s some suggested reading on the benefits and limitations of compatibility testing:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/features/compatibilitytesting.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/features/compatibilitytesting.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/datingoffice08/compatibilitytesting.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlinedatingmagazine.com/datingoffice08/compatibilitytesting.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>James Houran, Ph.D.<br />
<a href="http://www.OnlineDatingMagazine.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.OnlineDatingMagazine.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;m with Adam here. Sure it&#039;s an interesting diversion to use different matching features to see the list of people claimed to be my perfect match, but I never take the results THAT seriously. More or less, I see these as different ways of exposing segments of the database that I might not normally see due to filters applied by my other preferences. 

If the Netflix competition that is showing issues gaining a 10% improvement with something as inanimate as a movie, I don&#039;t have high hopes for the same system applied to complex human beings.

It just seems to me that some sites and commentators are more than a little obsessed with creating or discovering the perfect formula for matching folks together - attempting to boil the whole process down to some magical universal constant, which does feel a little impersonal at best!

Moreover, it almost sounds like some people aren&#039;t prepared to do the legwork involved in meeting your perfect person. I know we&#039;re all busy, but surely in our current society with increased rapid communications and transport, we are better placed than ever to discover our perfect person as we can cast the net much wider than in the days when people rarely ventured outside their immediate district?

So personally there&#039;s a big part of me that&#039;s happy to not be given &#039;the one&#039; - I feel I need to have a few disasterous or dull dates to fully appreciate what I&#039;m looking for. By accepting that dating sites are simply going to reveal to me a pool of reasonably likeminded folks who too are motivated to go on date, then I think I&#039;m a lot more at ease with what I&#039;m getting for my money. I&#039;ve paid for an introduction and I&#039;ll take it from here, enjoying all the experiences and secure I&#039;m making my decision rather than what a psychologist, doctor or algorithm tells me I should decide :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;m with Adam here. Sure it&#8217;s an interesting diversion to use different matching features to see the list of people claimed to be my perfect match, but I never take the results THAT seriously. More or less, I see these as different ways of exposing segments of the database that I might not normally see due to filters applied by my other preferences. </p>
<p>If the Netflix competition that is showing issues gaining a 10% improvement with something as inanimate as a movie, I don&#8217;t have high hopes for the same system applied to complex human beings.</p>
<p>It just seems to me that some sites and commentators are more than a little obsessed with creating or discovering the perfect formula for matching folks together &#8211; attempting to boil the whole process down to some magical universal constant, which does feel a little impersonal at best!</p>
<p>Moreover, it almost sounds like some people aren&#8217;t prepared to do the legwork involved in meeting your perfect person. I know we&#8217;re all busy, but surely in our current society with increased rapid communications and transport, we are better placed than ever to discover our perfect person as we can cast the net much wider than in the days when people rarely ventured outside their immediate district?</p>
<p>So personally there&#8217;s a big part of me that&#8217;s happy to not be given &#8216;the one&#8217; &#8211; I feel I need to have a few disasterous or dull dates to fully appreciate what I&#8217;m looking for. By accepting that dating sites are simply going to reveal to me a pool of reasonably likeminded folks who too are motivated to go on date, then I think I&#8217;m a lot more at ease with what I&#8217;m getting for my money. I&#8217;ve paid for an introduction and I&#8217;ll take it from here, enjoying all the experiences and secure I&#8217;m making my decision rather than what a psychologist, doctor or algorithm tells me I should decide :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave.  I&#039;ve had enough of these algorithm and formulas.  Its a ridiculous way to meet someone.  I went on a date through eharmony that said we were the best match in the world.  The girl was hot but she bored the hell out of me.  She probably thought the same of me.  The chemistry was not there.  So much for algorithms!

My Best to you,

Adam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave.  I&#8217;ve had enough of these algorithm and formulas.  Its a ridiculous way to meet someone.  I went on a date through eharmony that said we were the best match in the world.  The girl was hot but she bored the hell out of me.  She probably thought the same of me.  The chemistry was not there.  So much for algorithms!</p>
<p>My Best to you,</p>
<p>Adam</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Ardenghi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando Ardenghi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave, you are right when you post &quot;dating sites are ignoring matching algorithms&quot;
and &quot;Why are dating sites stuck in a rut, relying on marketing dollars instead of compatibility matching?&quot;
It is exactly the same problem on how to break sound barrier. 
Discard piston engines and adopt jet engines.


Online dating sites with *piston engines* means a compatibility matching method with a whole precision less than anyone could achieve by searching on one&#039;s own! (3 or 4 persons high compatible per 1,000 persons, so in a 10,000,000 persons database, you have as many as 30,000 to 40,000 persons to contact/date, it is like the population of an average small city)


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When you choose a movie, or other thing, they are not &quot;asked&quot; if they would have chosen you, so the match is unidirectional.
Suppose you give a ten star to a movie and also more than 500,000 persons give a ten star to that movie.


For Online Dating, if you choose a list of women, perhaps the women on that list, do not like you at all, or do not like you as intense as you like them.
The match should be bidirectional.
Suppose you give a ten star to a woman and also more than 200 men in a big database give her a ten star too, but perhaps that woman give a ten star to other differents men.

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&quot;The Cinematch system, like any recommendation engine, assumes that your taste is static and unchanging. The computer looks at all the movies you&#039;ve rated in the past, finds the trend and uses that to guide you. But the reality is that our cultural tastes evolve, and they change in part because we interact with others.&quot;

Cinematch recommendation engine is based solely on how much persons liked or disliked other movies. It is not always valid to convert past/previous indicators in results forecast for future sales.

I will contact Netflix to suggest include a normative personality test and combine it with Cinematch for better prediction purposes.




Regards, 

Fernando Ardenghi. 
Buenos Aires. 
Argentina. 
ardenghifer@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you are right when you post &#8220;dating sites are ignoring matching algorithms&#8221;<br />
and &#8220;Why are dating sites stuck in a rut, relying on marketing dollars instead of compatibility matching?&#8221;<br />
It is exactly the same problem on how to break sound barrier.<br />
Discard piston engines and adopt jet engines.</p>
<p>Online dating sites with *piston engines* means a compatibility matching method with a whole precision less than anyone could achieve by searching on one&#8217;s own! (3 or 4 persons high compatible per 1,000 persons, so in a 10,000,000 persons database, you have as many as 30,000 to 40,000 persons to contact/date, it is like the population of an average small city)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>When you choose a movie, or other thing, they are not &#8220;asked&#8221; if they would have chosen you, so the match is unidirectional.<br />
Suppose you give a ten star to a movie and also more than 500,000 persons give a ten star to that movie.</p>
<p>For Online Dating, if you choose a list of women, perhaps the women on that list, do not like you at all, or do not like you as intense as you like them.<br />
The match should be bidirectional.<br />
Suppose you give a ten star to a woman and also more than 200 men in a big database give her a ten star too, but perhaps that woman give a ten star to other differents men.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>&#8220;The Cinematch system, like any recommendation engine, assumes that your taste is static and unchanging. The computer looks at all the movies you&#8217;ve rated in the past, finds the trend and uses that to guide you. But the reality is that our cultural tastes evolve, and they change in part because we interact with others.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cinematch recommendation engine is based solely on how much persons liked or disliked other movies. It is not always valid to convert past/previous indicators in results forecast for future sales.</p>
<p>I will contact Netflix to suggest include a normative personality test and combine it with Cinematch for better prediction purposes.</p>
<p>Regards, </p>
<p>Fernando Ardenghi.<br />
Buenos Aires.<br />
Argentina.<br />
<a href="mailto:ardenghifer@gmail.com">ardenghifer@gmail.com</a></p>
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