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		<title>By: Chris Peck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Peck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And all this time I thought I was imagining this fraudulent site. - and I have just found this blog!
I am living in Australia and spoke to someone last week (yes even I was surprised I got through to an actual person).  When she told me I was too late (12 days instead of 14) i told her I was going to start legal action immediately. She then agreed she would cancel my renewal subscription - and I received an email saying it was cancelled.  Today I received a phone call from the Fraud Squad to question a suspected  fraudulent transaction - and B2 had taken another $248 from my Visa!!!
I am furious and have been unhappy with this site the whole time. Needless to say I have not had success  - most of the profiles they sent me - were removed before I opened their message.
Surely we (those of us aggrieved in dating site land) can  expose such disgusting behaviour?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And all this time I thought I was imagining this fraudulent site. &#8211; and I have just found this blog!<br />
I am living in Australia and spoke to someone last week (yes even I was surprised I got through to an actual person).  When she told me I was too late (12 days instead of 14) i told her I was going to start legal action immediately. She then agreed she would cancel my renewal subscription &#8211; and I received an email saying it was cancelled.  Today I received a phone call from the Fraud Squad to question a suspected  fraudulent transaction &#8211; and B2 had taken another $248 from my Visa!!!<br />
I am furious and have been unhappy with this site the whole time. Needless to say I have not had success  &#8211; most of the profiles they sent me &#8211; were removed before I opened their message.<br />
Surely we (those of us aggrieved in dating site land) can  expose such disgusting behaviour?</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 14:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Jason I absolutely agree. I joined only 10 days ago and am horrified at the experience I&#039;ve had with Be2. What on earth needs to be done to stop this company. It&#039;s disgraceful to read the many, many warnings from the people who joined this site only to have extensive trouble getting out of it and also retrieving any payment made once they realised almost immediately that things weren&#039;t right and  even after every effort was made to cancel memberships and automatic payment renewals. I only wish I&#039;d done more research online, as I never would have joined this dating site if I&#039;d known what I would see once I&#039;d paid my money for the 6 months membership. No wonder we can&#039;t see photos etc before we pay! So many scam profiles! No one would pay good hard earned money to be exposed to scams! And what happens to our information and photos once we&#039;ve given them that information? I hate to think! I wonder if the photo used by a fake profile, claiming to be a man called &#039;Gregory Petterson&#039; was once an innocent member of this, or another dating site. I googled the name as well as Be2 scams and very soon discovered many, many disgruntled and angry people who feel victimised by their experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Jason I absolutely agree. I joined only 10 days ago and am horrified at the experience I&#8217;ve had with Be2. What on earth needs to be done to stop this company. It&#8217;s disgraceful to read the many, many warnings from the people who joined this site only to have extensive trouble getting out of it and also retrieving any payment made once they realised almost immediately that things weren&#8217;t right and  even after every effort was made to cancel memberships and automatic payment renewals. I only wish I&#8217;d done more research online, as I never would have joined this dating site if I&#8217;d known what I would see once I&#8217;d paid my money for the 6 months membership. No wonder we can&#8217;t see photos etc before we pay! So many scam profiles! No one would pay good hard earned money to be exposed to scams! And what happens to our information and photos once we&#8217;ve given them that information? I hate to think! I wonder if the photo used by a fake profile, claiming to be a man called &#8216;Gregory Petterson&#8217; was once an innocent member of this, or another dating site. I googled the name as well as Be2 scams and very soon discovered many, many disgruntled and angry people who feel victimised by their experience.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2011 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not join Be2 whatever you do. It is a complete scam and rip off. Once you have joined you cannot leave no matter how many emails you send or what ever faxes you send you can&#039;t leave! And they continue taking money from your bank account. It is an injustice that this company is still causing pain to thousands of people around the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not join Be2 whatever you do. It is a complete scam and rip off. Once you have joined you cannot leave no matter how many emails you send or what ever faxes you send you can&#8217;t leave! And they continue taking money from your bank account. It is an injustice that this company is still causing pain to thousands of people around the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...nice round!!  That should go a long way in growing this great service!! 

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cuyx.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chat with singles in your city&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;nice round!!  That should go a long way in growing this great service!! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cuyx.com" rel="nofollow">Chat with singles in your city</a></p>
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		<title>By: AEGA books</title>
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		<dc:creator>AEGA books</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sergey
There is no room to improve the service because it started as a scam, same as Maddoff, Stanford and thousand of other white collar thieves.  And it will remain as a scam but improving it with all the digital disguise. It is just a matter of time before these people go to justice.  If you steal a dollar from ten people is ten dollars, but if you steal 1 dollar from 20 million people is twenty million dollars. Get it?? The question is: How many more million dollars will be stolen during the next coming years, before this fraudelent service in intervened by the authorities? Will the victims ever recover their money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sergey<br />
There is no room to improve the service because it started as a scam, same as Maddoff, Stanford and thousand of other white collar thieves.  And it will remain as a scam but improving it with all the digital disguise. It is just a matter of time before these people go to justice.  If you steal a dollar from ten people is ten dollars, but if you steal 1 dollar from 20 million people is twenty million dollars. Get it?? The question is: How many more million dollars will be stolen during the next coming years, before this fraudelent service in intervened by the authorities? Will the victims ever recover their money?</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, now I must say that my account IS fixed. Thanks.

but.. be2.COM is not the whole be2 Gmbh.. and in some countries VERY strange things happen.. starting from self-contradictory Agreement..
So there is plenty of room to improve the service;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now I must say that my account IS fixed. Thanks.</p>
<p>but.. be2.COM is not the whole be2 Gmbh.. and in some countries VERY strange things happen.. starting from self-contradictory Agreement..<br />
So there is plenty of room to improve the service;)</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I suspect that ic3.gov can handle this issue a little bit better.
There is a clear evidence of mis-information and self-contradictory information, on the site (screenshots and tcpdump logs are quite easy to record) and in e-mail notifications,  leading to, well, users (several millions of users?) being a little bit (average $100/user?) , well,  overcharged. 
That, AFAIK, constitutes a FRAUD, which is, AFAIK, Swiss Criminal Code art.146.

Be2 perfectly knows which accounts have canceled their subscriptions.
So either this is resolved for ALL the users, or.....  the trick of fixing this only for those who care enough to complain (how much is that? 1%? 0.1%? how much will just not notice that $100 per 6 months among other things?) so that trick will not do this time. 
I had reported this via the form on the site in my country. Twice. They did absolutely nothing. 
Well , you see, that as be2 people read this - they do not go dig and fix their database. For YEARS, people from different countries complain, and nothing is done.

Well, who can believe that one cannot fix a &quot;simple technical error on the site&quot; for $1Billion and 1 year??
Who can beleive that while they can handle censoring all the messages (1 per free user per day?)   there is no one to properly handle a cancellation request (1 per vip-user per year?)

Why would a SHOP ever want to HIDE THE PRICE TAGS? Can you see them while subscribed? Can you see them on the site while not logged in? Now guess why. This violates at least Russian antitrust laws (selling the same product at the same time for different prices to different customers). I do not know exactly about Swiss law on this issue.

Why are you censored on this site if you just write &quot;I want to quit this site&quot; in your profile?? 
People, think about it. They don&#039;t want you to ever quit a DATING AGENCY. 
Why would one ever need to do that? Well, if you want to quit - you just hit that quit button, right? ha-ha, WRONG. 
I always thought that Switzerland was quite far away from Nigeria...gotta dig out that world map..)))

Such abuse of trust, as well as the law, is intolerable. This has gone way too far. Be2 is free to hate its foreign users as much as it likes, and consider them no more than their Swiss bank account fodder, but respect the freakin&#039; LAW at least... (sorry, I forgot.. it&#039;s crisis time.. and laws can also be bought and sold.. RIAA did it, who&#039;s the next??)
enough talk..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suspect that ic3.gov can handle this issue a little bit better.<br />
There is a clear evidence of mis-information and self-contradictory information, on the site (screenshots and tcpdump logs are quite easy to record) and in e-mail notifications,  leading to, well, users (several millions of users?) being a little bit (average $100/user?) , well,  overcharged.<br />
That, AFAIK, constitutes a FRAUD, which is, AFAIK, Swiss Criminal Code art.146.</p>
<p>Be2 perfectly knows which accounts have canceled their subscriptions.<br />
So either this is resolved for ALL the users, or&#8230;..  the trick of fixing this only for those who care enough to complain (how much is that? 1%? 0.1%? how much will just not notice that $100 per 6 months among other things?) so that trick will not do this time.<br />
I had reported this via the form on the site in my country. Twice. They did absolutely nothing.<br />
Well , you see, that as be2 people read this &#8211; they do not go dig and fix their database. For YEARS, people from different countries complain, and nothing is done.</p>
<p>Well, who can believe that one cannot fix a &#8220;simple technical error on the site&#8221; for $1Billion and 1 year??<br />
Who can beleive that while they can handle censoring all the messages (1 per free user per day?)   there is no one to properly handle a cancellation request (1 per vip-user per year?)</p>
<p>Why would a SHOP ever want to HIDE THE PRICE TAGS? Can you see them while subscribed? Can you see them on the site while not logged in? Now guess why. This violates at least Russian antitrust laws (selling the same product at the same time for different prices to different customers). I do not know exactly about Swiss law on this issue.</p>
<p>Why are you censored on this site if you just write &#8220;I want to quit this site&#8221; in your profile??<br />
People, think about it. They don&#8217;t want you to ever quit a DATING AGENCY.<br />
Why would one ever need to do that? Well, if you want to quit &#8211; you just hit that quit button, right? ha-ha, WRONG.<br />
I always thought that Switzerland was quite far away from Nigeria&#8230;gotta dig out that world map..)))</p>
<p>Such abuse of trust, as well as the law, is intolerable. This has gone way too far. Be2 is free to hate its foreign users as much as it likes, and consider them no more than their Swiss bank account fodder, but respect the freakin&#8217; LAW at least&#8230; (sorry, I forgot.. it&#8217;s crisis time.. and laws can also be bought and sold.. RIAA did it, who&#8217;s the next??)<br />
enough talk..</p>
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		<title>By: Michaela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sergey,

IÂ´m Michaela from be2 and just read your comment. IÂ´m sorry you experienced problems with your cancellation process. We take such feedback very seriously as we are constantly looking for ways to improve our service for our members. 

Unfortunately from the information you provided, I cannot look at your case in more detail. Please share your username and service ID (stated in each letter you receive from our customer service, otherwise the email address that you used for registering with be2) with us on the following feedback email address: opinion@be2.com. You will receive an immediate reply and we will try to solve your issues together with you.

Best wishes,
Michaela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sergey,</p>
<p>IÂ´m Michaela from be2 and just read your comment. IÂ´m sorry you experienced problems with your cancellation process. We take such feedback very seriously as we are constantly looking for ways to improve our service for our members. </p>
<p>Unfortunately from the information you provided, I cannot look at your case in more detail. Please share your username and service ID (stated in each letter you receive from our customer service, otherwise the email address that you used for registering with be2) with us on the following feedback email address: <a href="mailto:opinion@be2.com">opinion@be2.com</a>. You will receive an immediate reply and we will try to solve your issues together with you.</p>
<p>Best wishes,<br />
Michaela</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 19:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve cancelled online, and have got an e-mail confirmation that automatic subscription renewal has been stopped,.. and they still keep billing, and of course they ignore any complaints on this subject.

This is straightforward CREDIT CARD FRAUD, and the company commits it on regular basis.
BE2 must be BLACKLISTED so everybody will see FRAUD WARNING in their browsers on all be2 sites.

Let alone that their &quot;search results&quot; are actually just a RANDOM selection ,filtered a little bit to throw away most &quot;incompatible&quot; surveys, this is obvious because average Kbe2 rating does not rise when you choose a wider search range, you can see surveys with high Kbe2 disappear and with lower Kbe2 appear, and you cannot narrow the search range enough to ensure that they do not hide anything. 
So any free site with a REAL search through the whole database shows better results if you can narrow the search enough on that site.
So there is FALSE ADVERTISING as well - BE2 does NOT find &quot;compatible&quot; partners for you, they just want you to spend more time on the site so you pay more money. 

But now they can probably just BUY anything and anybody, and any black list and any court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve cancelled online, and have got an e-mail confirmation that automatic subscription renewal has been stopped,.. and they still keep billing, and of course they ignore any complaints on this subject.</p>
<p>This is straightforward CREDIT CARD FRAUD, and the company commits it on regular basis.<br />
BE2 must be BLACKLISTED so everybody will see FRAUD WARNING in their browsers on all be2 sites.</p>
<p>Let alone that their &#8220;search results&#8221; are actually just a RANDOM selection ,filtered a little bit to throw away most &#8220;incompatible&#8221; surveys, this is obvious because average Kbe2 rating does not rise when you choose a wider search range, you can see surveys with high Kbe2 disappear and with lower Kbe2 appear, and you cannot narrow the search range enough to ensure that they do not hide anything.<br />
So any free site with a REAL search through the whole database shows better results if you can narrow the search enough on that site.<br />
So there is FALSE ADVERTISING as well &#8211; BE2 does NOT find &#8220;compatible&#8221; partners for you, they just want you to spend more time on the site so you pay more money. </p>
<p>But now they can probably just BUY anything and anybody, and any black list and any court.</p>
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		<title>By: Jan Kajander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan Kajander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 14:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a small point here...
They block the emails for years, then having popups in my email account
promoting &quot;b2 love&quot;, so i have to &quot;find&quot; someone and pay for it, and
then they block the communication between &quot;us&quot;. What is this fraud?
http://corfu.t35.com/rebuild.htm

I got intressted in the equation of low security, automatic news generators, automatical tradingsystems, backdoors and remote access, the whole equation
smells...

Yours sincerely
Jan kajander
corfu.t35.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a small point here&#8230;<br />
They block the emails for years, then having popups in my email account<br />
promoting &#8220;b2 love&#8221;, so i have to &#8220;find&#8221; someone and pay for it, and<br />
then they block the communication between &#8220;us&#8221;. What is this fraud?<br />
<a href="http://corfu.t35.com/rebuild.htm" rel="nofollow">http://corfu.t35.com/rebuild.htm</a></p>
<p>I got intressted in the equation of low security, automatic news generators, automatical tradingsystems, backdoors and remote access, the whole equation<br />
smells&#8230;</p>
<p>Yours sincerely<br />
Jan kajander<br />
corfu.t35.com</p>
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